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173D

HEART OF KINDNESS

CBC INTERVIEW - TAPE 1

YOUR HOLINESS, I'D LIKE TO KNOW IF THE DALAI LAMA EVER GETS A DAY OFF.

[Tibetan]

I'M SORRY DO YOU HAVE

Yes I do

I'D LIKE TO KNOW IF THE DALAI LAMA EVER GETS A HOLIDAY, TAKES A VACATION.

Yes I think in certain .......... yes sometimes

WHAT DO YOU LIKE TO DO WHEN YOU HAVE TIME TO YOURSELF?

More reading and those my daily meditation extended more how to say more time, more leisurely. Then that gives me some kind of satisfaction or some, good good good for me. So that's so really in India sometimes I visit some remote place and spend one week or two weeks without meeting new people just stay quietly and then they of course the daily routine is same as I mentioned just now you see. Then I have leisure as a more longer time about this practice and then reading reading.

[technical comments]

Sorry sorry sorry

WHAT DO YOU LIKE TO READ? WHAT KIND OF A BOOK DO YOU ENJOY?

You see mainly of course in Tibetan Buddhists mainly Buddhist philosophy then in English my of course there are many fields where I have interests. Now for example the some simple explanation about cosmology that is very interesting to me. Then about biology these things also is very interesting. Then of course b......... and then also what so different thing. Then also explanation about nature I think what you call about the tree, about plants and birds, the different mammals in sea or sometimes the different people from different places. These mainly I enjoy read.

I'VE SEEN YOU FEEDING THE BIRDS AND I WONDER IF YOU HAVE A FAVORITE ONE?

That usually those birds who never create trouble for other birds I love more. So I sometimes I although I practise Buddha dharma and sometimes I have to make some discrimination of these birds. Sometimes more favorite some then so fond.

SOME OF THEM SCARE THE OTHER BIRDS AWAY.

Yeah. Those those bigger ones. There is one smaller you see, lot of them small small one feeding there is one big one come and then creates sometimes unpleasant atmosphere. So sometimes I how to say huhn? yes chase them.

YOU RUN AFTER THEM OR DO YOU YELL AT THEM?

Some sometimes I use in order to protect the smaller one, sometimes I use what you call airgun air rifle.

YOU SHOOT THE BIRDS?

No no no no.

YOU FRIGHTEN THEM.

[HH laughs]

WHEN YOU HAVE

And then when I was in Tibet when I was young, one occasion I shot one small birds with what you call the air rifle, sad very sad. That my mistake.

DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING MORE TO LEARN ABOUT YOUR FAITH? ARE YOU DISCOVERING EVERY DAY?

Every day I don't know. Now here I can't see much how to say result if I look daily experiences. Oh I mean I think it's daily, if I look at it daily, there is not much to see development. Then I compare, today is my how to say is way of thinking or behaviour compare five years back or ten years back, then I notice much change. So then I look, then I realize during my practice some change took place within myself. So that then you know my position I can't stand remote place for at least a few month, that kind of thing you see. At the moment difficult almost impossible. So therefore certain practice I can't practice.

THAT I ASSUME THAT CHANGES FOR THE BETTER YOU ARE A BETTER PERSON NOW IN SOME WAYS THAN YOU WERE FIVE YEARS AGO OR TEN YEARS AGO?

Yes that I can say, yes.

CAN I GO BACK TO BEFORE YOU WERE CHOSEN IN 1939? DO YOU HAVE MANY MEMORIES OF YOUR CHILDHOOD AND THE PARTY THAT CAME AND FOUND YOU?

Yes that time according my mother and all some people who at that time found me according their how to say witness, I clearly showed clear memory of past life. And also different nation these different people, their names Then my own ........... actually naturally the Buddhist, according Buddhist how to say belief, the new body when grown up or the all the different cells of the new body fully developed, then the memory of past life decrease. Unless you make special effort. So now today I have not much actually none memory about this past life. But then one indication about past life then here according my own experience, certain certain field, certain Buddhist philosophical field or point where usually I don't know usually good scholars they spent a lot of time and a lot of effort and then gain some knowledge or deeper knowledge. In my case, without much effort sometimes easily get the deeper meaning. Then when I discuss with these different scholars their experiences, then I realize, I notice yes my case without much effect, without much effort, and time how while playing then is a steady on almost a superficial level but somehow I gained some deeper knowledge. So that means I believe due to my past lives how to say study.

DID YOU UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN YOU WERE THREE AND FOUR YEARS OLD? DID YOU UNDERSTAND THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THAT?

Of course at that time, as I mention earlier you see, it seems those people who acquainted with previous Dalai Lama and these people when came I realized these people and mentioned their name so feeling just how to say spontaneous feeling So that believe some young now today for example in India two small girls I personally met their memory is so sharp, so clear so as a result both two girls now have four parents, parent of this life, two parents of this life then the memory or the expression is so convincing so the previous two parents also now accepted these two girls as their own daughter. So I've personally seen that. So when they're young their memory quite clear so these things so in my case also you see. These things are similar.

DID YOUR PARENTS KNOW THAT YOU SPECIAL, DID YOUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS KNOW HOW IMPORTANT YOU WERE?

Yes, before the searching party of Dalai Lama reach there my mother and father they already decided I should enter monastery.

AT THAT YOUNG AGE?

That's right. I mean eventually should enter monastery because my behaviour or there certain indication after my birth. So they consider me something something reincarnation of a Dalai Lama.

IT WASN'T BECAUSE YOU CAUSED A LOT OF TROUBLE AROUND THE HOUSE?

I think one ............. as you mentioned some important rebirth happened and sometimes certain unfortunate experiences happen and then my case another story anyways little bit mysterious thing. You see in my family or the village if you Dalai some kind some kind of mysterious forces. My mother when she sick actually few occasion actually my mother saw that mysterious you see so that kind of thing. Anyway that thing before my birth that mysterious mysterious thing often happen in my family. After my birth that no more. So my mother very much appreciate my birth. Since my birth my mother felt no more how to say interference of mysterious things. So they I think think they I think they found me because of that one one reason like that. Then the about my birth my father very sick, then the very day my birth completely cure. Then as soon as father is one son born, then father delighted and shout and then they say, or he says spontaneously, oh he wanted to I mean he want this youngest son should be should become a monk. So that's that's story.

DO YOU EVER DREAM OF THE ESCAPE IN 1959?

You mean before?

NO NOW. DOES IT EVERY COME BACK TO YOU?

Yes sometimes yes sometimes.

AND DO YOU THINK THAT YOU WERE LUCKY I MEAN WHAT FORM DOES THE DREAM TAKE THAT YOU WERE ABLE TO ESCAPE?

What do you mean?

DO YOU THINK THAT YOU WERE LUCKY TO BE ABLE TO ESCAPE?

Escape. Of course. There's no doubt. I think I think reasons two level. You see personal level free from tyranny, free from how to say

OPPRESSION

oppression. You know there I mean to me that is if there is freedom, you can utilize human creative nature. Now as a result as a result of freedom in India, no refugee but full freedom, so as a result I can communicate, I can meet different people from different culture, different country, different religion, different political idea, very useful. To me much gain as a result of this meeting different people. If I remain in Tibet under Chinese full control, only those people whom Chinese agree to meet I can meet. Otherwise difficult. Now actually recent years is some change .......... the previous situation. There is personal level. Then of course as a Buddhist monk we always consider India as something very important, very sacred place, therefore in ancient time you see, despite difficulties to reach India you see, many people go to India, make how to say pilgramage. So we we consider very fortunate now we are living in India. Then on the level of how to say Tibet as the Dalai Lama, because my escape or because Dalai Lama how to say freed or get out from Chinese hand, so now today outside Tibet there is now community where Tibetan culture, or I should say the Buddha state of Tibetan culture useful useful aspect of Tibetan culture and especially Buddhism survive intactly. Inside Tibet, there lot of destructions happened. So therefore for Tibetan how to say national viewpoint, and also I think Tibetan culture and Buddhism, of course you we we are in India, we escaped from India with me there are many scholars many lamas. So today I consider that the 59 event no mistake. We feel it was very satisfying.

I WANTED TO ASK YOU, FROM THE JOURNEY YOU'VE BEEN ON, WHAT YOU ARE MOST PROUD OF, AND I THINK MAYBE

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174D

HEART OF KINDNESS

CBC INTERVIEW - TAPE 2

That is my dream that from time to time, some cases there are plain indication my past life. Sometimes dream dream sometimes is spontaneous feeling I am that person that have feeling, or sometimes I met in dreams personally. Then other things something maybe mysterious.

AS A CHILD YOU [OVERLAPPING].......TODAY

[OFF MIKE COMMENTS]

[Tibetan]

[Tibetan]

If you find something connection then you can ask and I'll explain. Otherwise [Tibetan]

I WANTED TO ASK YOU ABOUT THIS JOURNEY THAT YOU HAVE BEEN ON FROM WELL I GUESS FROM THE BEGINNING, BUT MORE AS THE DALAI LAMA FROM THE AGE OF FOUR, WHAT YOU ARE MOST PROUD OF. WHAT HAVE YOU BEEN ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH AS THE DALAI LAMA.

.......... I don't know. One way I feel just as a simple Buddhist monk, I can't do much. Although I have the sincere motivation to do and to contribute for welfare of human community or all sentient being in Buddha dharma. But other hand, in some aspect or I mean some another how to say angle if you look another angle, then because of circumstances not like previous Dalai Lama's time, now today in my time circumstances oh bad. In fact I think is more than 2000 years Tibetan history, this is the darkest period. ......... the destruction although this kind of national tragedy happening before, but today the so well organized this destruct how to say destructive power. So destruction is something immense. And the amount of people suffering, even Tibetan wild animal, so much is suffering. Then under this circumstances, not my ability, but because of the circumstances, I think my being I think it becomes some useful for Tibetan people, for Tibetan culture, for Tibetan how to say their future right. So sometimes I feel yes, under worst circumstances, I contribute something. That's my great achievement.

GIVEN THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES, I THINK NINE OUT OF TEN PEOPLE WOULD ALLOW YOU SOME ANGER, WOULD ALLOW YOU A DEGREE OF IMPATIENCE WITH THE SITUATION.

[Tibetan]

A MAJORITY OF PEOPLE A MAJORITY OF PEOPLE WOULD SAY I UNDERSTAND WHY HE'S ANGRY, I UNDERSTAND IF HE IS IMPATIENT. AND YOU HAVEN'T CHOSEN EITHER EMOTION.

[Tibetan]

I see yes. [Tibetan]

SORRY

Sorry, the question is?

THE QUESTION IS I GUESS MANY PEOPLE WONDER WHY YOU ARE NOT, WHY YOU DON'T EXHIBIT ANGER OR PUBLICLY SHOW IMPATIENCE, GIVEN THE CIRCUMSTANCES THAT YOU'VE JUST DESCRIBED.

Well that's I mean impatience I mean anger or hatred or ill feeling, I mean is ........ our own course. It won't help my own future. As some important Buddhist text mentions the ill feeling or anger, hatred, it's almost like self. Self ruin. So now for example my case, if I develop some irritation, some anger, the result I lost my appetite, I lost my sleep and eventually I think my health will deteriorated or weaken. So another on other hand, some who are troublemaker there they won't get any hurt from my ill feeling, isn't it? So other hand I remain peace, calm, quite happy and with normal function about my brain work. And then from that way, from that state of mind, I can judge better, I can act better way. So that anyway other other my friend who creates trouble for Tibetan how to say Tibetan nation, I think anyway they may hurt more if I remain here calm peace and calculate without how to say without how to say excitement or without blindness.

BUT I GUESS IT'S EASIER TO SEE THE RESULTS OF ANGER THAN IT IS TO SEE THE RESULTS OF COMPASSION.

I don't think, I don't think. You see with compassion the equally energtating or how to say powerful action will come. With clear clearness so I consider the anger as just useless, it's no use anger. Just accept yourself how to say ...... self disturbance some kind of thing. That's my belief.

BUT YOUR HOLINESS IF THAT ANGER COMES FROM SEEING AN INJUSTICE AND YOU BELIEVE THAT IT HAS A BASE OF MORALITY

Oh yes

THEN ISN'T THAT ANGER NOT JUST APPROPRIATE BUT ISN'T THAT A REQUIRED REACTION TO HUMAN SUFFERING?

Now ...... and for parent yes, for parent, two parent they how to say their children's behaviour sometimes due to their certain behaviour the parent may feel very negative feeling but that time there is some kind of agitated feeling with strong compassion, love. No anger. Still some kind of very close feeling towards that I mean towards that. And with that motivation the parent may take appropriate measure So here someone is I don't know the exact word but there is a certain I mean rough thought with compassion, or there is rough feeling without compassion, is there are a lot of differences. So important thing is I think with compassion and awareness, you may develop certain kind of thought which gives you same amount of energy as anger gives you without the the blindness or with aware awareness.

I THINK YOU ARE A PRACTICAL MAN, YOU UNDERSTAND THE PROBLEMS THAT THE WORLD IS FACING NOW. AND I HAVE TO TRY TO EXPLORE WITH YOU HOW LOVE AND COMPASSION AND KINDNESS AND WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, HOW THOSE EMOTIONS WILL TACKLE WORLD POLLUTION, THE ARMS RACE THE CONCERNS THAT PEOPLE ON THIS PLANET ARE FACING NOW. HOW DO YOU SEE THAT COMING TOGETHER?

[Tibetan]

As a buddhist is the ultimate decision come from motivation, the proper motivation is most important, the key mover. So now many I think negative event on the world some that I think make I think may some due to I think negative emotion such as war you know clearly. And with anger, with hatred, then certain negative action, human action not necessarily that kind of negative emotion or negative motivation, but the neglect neglect what you say

NEGLIGENCE?

Negligence, yes. Now for example I think that the .... pollution or the ozone layer is a problem these things these things, we I mean not necessarily to have some kind of negative or certain emotion, certain how to say certain

EMOTIONS?

motivation, motivation to destroy these things. But simply we neglect, we don't care, we simply caring more wealth or more money ........... isn't it? So now here in both cases the compassion or compassion anyway sense of responsibility, sharing other people's right or experience. Therefore with compassion naturally you can feel the future generations' right and their welfare. All one is a country you realize in certain things then other other hand same planet people facing starvation, that kind of thing, isn't it? These things anyway lack of how to call negligence

NEGLIGENCE

not hatred feeling but you do negligence. So in this case more compassionate attitude, more concern about others and about other means including next generation, future generation. So then naturally you will develop some kind of concern about preservation of resource or preservation of atmosphere. And naturally concerned about more equality, more distribution.

I JUST WANT TO ASK YOU TO STAY ON THE ENVIRONMENT AND THE POLLUTION PROBLEM ON THIS PLANET NOW BECAUSE I THINK A LOT OF THAT POLLUTION AND OUR ABUSE OF THIS PLANET HAS COME FROM WANTING TO BE MORE COMFORTABLE WITH MATERIAL THINGS. DOES THAT ACT AS AN OBSTRUCTION, DOES THAT STOP THE PROCESS OF COMING TO TERMS WITH ONESELF OR ACHIEVING A PEACE OF MIND?

And I'm finding here much depend on awareness, our own future. Now many scientists now because of their what you say I mean their knowledge political this field, their deeper awareness or deeper knowledge about long term consequences therefore they see the long term how to say negative

IMPLICATIONS?

implications. So therefore I really think much depend on awareness. So public I think the constant sort of educating if we if we how to say do this with negligence, then a long term future consequences will be such and such. I think is very important, now these compassionate action actually is not something moral issue. I consider not just as a moral thing, sometimes I think the moral question is anyway something like luxury, I mean here you have these more luxury things very good, but without it you can survive. So now the question of compassion and sense of responsibility. Now this is not question of luxury, but this is question of survival, long term survival. Now concerning how to say ecology, environment, the planet which belongs to us our own planet not moon some other planet, this we have to survive within this planet So sometimes I call the planet as our mother. But til now the planet, mother planet, accepted stupid children's behaviour up to certain standard, up to certain limit. Now human ability creation of new imbalance of certain nature element now that ability reach so high so now mother planet telling us: be careful. There is limitations.

WHAT WILL MAKE US LISTEN TO THAT WARNING THOUGH?

So now we when big city too much pollution.......... suffer. Sometimes is a fear more how to say tiredness, more exhaustion. So this who makes that? Myself. And I often telling those people who complaining about how to say the coughing or these different I mean different kind of the physical problem. At the same time they don't care about smoke about how to say hard drink. Sometimes I jokingly someone in some cases certain people come to ask me some kind of blessing or some kind of thing for their liver trouble. At the same time they drink a lot how to say alcohol. There I don't I can't I can't give you any blessing unless you stop

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175D

HEART OF KINDNESS

CBC INTERVIEW - TAPE 3

[OFF MIKE COMMENTS]

IN TALKING TO SO MANY PEOPLE WE'VE TALKED TO DOZENS OF PEOPLE, EACH PERSON SEES YOU IN A DIFFERENT WAY AND EACH PERSON SEES YOU WITH A LOT OF ADULATION, WARM FEELING FROM THE HEART AND A LOT OF GOOD THINGS. HOW DOES THAT MAKE YOU FEEL?

So long other people how to say showing some kind of warmth or very friendly attitude I would smile, I feel happy. Then sometimes I feel yes I may contribute something for their at least temporary mental peace. That also I consider purpose of life. If not benefit long how to say longer time then short few minutes alright. Sometimes even I tried to smile then other side went like very serious no sometimes feel little bit how to say uncomfortable. Sometimes I feel .........

I'VE ALSO SEEN IT MAKES YOU LAUGH SOMETIMES TOO. ANYTHING ELSE ON THAT? I THINK SOMETIMES FOR OTHER PEOPLE PERHAPS IT'S THEIR OWN KARMA OR PERHAPS THEIR OWN IMAGINATION OR PERHAPS IT'S THEIR REALITY IS YOU ARE A HEALER. DO YOU YOURSELF FEEL THAT YOU'RE A HEALER?

No no no. In the past sometimes some people later to express or told me as a result of my meeting or how to say shake hand or some kind of pat or that kind of thing, they got some kind of cure or something. I myself am surprised. But I have no use now power how to say healing. I no interest. See I always asking people should should make should have proper medical treatment my blessing my how to say blessing will not sufficiently is not reliable I always are telling people. So no question about healing. I am not healer.

NOT EVEN UNINTENTIONALLY, WITHOUT INTENTION?

As from Buddhist viewpoint can ......... link, sometimes may happen.

WHAT IS THE IMPORTANCE OF THE ........... INITIATION FOR WORLD PEACE AND HOW DOES THAT WORK FOR SOMEBODY IN THE WEST FOR INSTANCE TO UNDERSTAND THAT?

I think we consider Kalachakra tantric tantric teaching is this is Buddha taught this not merely meant for individual practitioner but is somehow is some connection with the entire human community based in the historical I mean according scripture, one Shambala place called mysterious land is Shambala, although you can't find where it is I don't know. Anyway the Buddha taught this practice for that particular entire human community. And later we consider we believe after a few century this planet may develop direct contact with that mysterious land. So therefore the anyone who make some kind of how to say connection with this practice they eventually at least minimum benefit during that time will reappear, will take rebirth of this planet and will how to say advance spiritual experiences. Then then up to now my own experiences according my own experience, usually when I perform this initiation, it seems sometimes it may contributed something in the in that area, in atmosphere some kind of mysterious way there's some kind of I think positive how to say energy or vibration. So anyway not harmful vibration. So so I have the courage I'm thinking sort of courage or determination to perform And then of course individually Kalachakra one of the I think very vast and profound tantric system. So if anyone can practice than this is one of the I think very rich tantric practice. So some kind useful. But I consider mainly contribution atmosphere surrounding the place, some kind of positive charging. So that I consider mainly HH - CBC Interview - Explanation of Kalachakra|1

HOW DO WE AS PEOPLE DEVELOP A GREATER FEELING OF KINDNESS FOR OTHER HUMAN BEINGS AND FOR ALL KINDS OF LIFE? HOW DO WE BECOME BETTER...... YOU'RE OBVIOUSLY VERY GOOD AT ....

My usually I'm telling people the practice of compassion these things not as a religious thing, not as a moral thing but these things other the thing which very important for one's own happiness and one's own future success and at another level entire human community entire human how to say humanity actually very much depend on whether you whether we ourself realize or not in fact future of humanity must depend on compassion. That individual human being when they are start their life. Without compassion or without affection how do you call affection, you can't survive. That's not a religious word, but some of my scientist friends expressed according their scientific research they told especially after just few weeks after born the simple mother's touch is crucial factor to develop their brain brain cell. So now this shows very human body itself need that affection, compassionate feeling. And this is nothing to do with religion nothing to do with god. Simply their how to say the basic nature of human body and human society and human community. And now the modern ........ modern technology modern communication, modern economic structure, now these facts, these factors or these reality compell us, we have to think more larger how to say larger interests in order to survive onself, in order to happy oneself. After all we human beings social animal. So we have to live together. And modern economic structure like that. Not only nation to nation but continent to continent heavily dependent on one one ......... So under such circumstances, without sense of usually I call universal responsibility, we can't properly develop about human future. Now we are nearing the next century. Now already this century I think already clearly showed the war and peace. I think now people more and more people realize the war is something really a negative thing. Previous time people do feel war is something necessary, final decision may come to war. Today one factor nuclear threat, or nuclear how to say the destructive power. So people now simply feel that war is something out of question. So the genuine feeling or genuine desire to achieve lasting world peace now I think it seems much much stronger. Then again the previous time, the early part of this century or even mid part of this century, people completely neglect about environment, ecology problems. Now today people realize that we have to we have to take serious concerns about ecology effect environment. So this also I think is very healthy sign. Not due to religion but due to deeper knowledge about human I mean deeper deeper knowledge or deeper awareness about reality. And also through experience now the more and more people now feeling the signs after all science and internal mental peace or spiritual but somehow should come closer. Now these because of the reality now compell us to think more about inner human quality. Then anger up to now we fully developed anger. Result? Not satisfy, not satisfactory. Through Second World War not from out of compassion but out of anger, out of jealousy, out of hatred so much destruction happened. I think we already experienced the result of anger, result of unlimited attachment of desire Now these lead us I think certain corner, now there is not much room to move. So we have to find another alternative. Now that is more genuine compassions or sometimes I call the deeper realization of oneness of entire human being, oneness entire human being, oneness oneness entire human being. And with that on the basis of that kind of realization the genuine sense of universal responsibility on the basis of sense of brotherhood, sisterhood. I think is the the very important basis for future development. This is I feel. So if we think more develop according our own experience, then we can we can I mean we can we can see the situation, this I feel.

ONE LAST QUESTION. YOU TOLD ME YOU'RE NOT A POLITICIAN, IT'S NOT YOUR VOCATION, YOUR PROFESSION WHAT IS YOUR REAL PROFESSION?

My real profession: sleep. This is I love sleep sound sleep, the day long day how to say activities and then late evening my eyelids become very very thick. That is how you say sound sleep give me next day full alert, full how to say ready. No need sleeping pill, no need to other thing. Then of course as a as a Buddhist monk who spent the most of energy and time to study Buddha dharma so that of course I'm not a learned one compare someone ah my knowledge is just as nothing. But then as a Buddhist, Buddhist philosophy relative. If my knowledge compare someone else then sometimes I feel oh, I have some knowledge. And anyway that I consider my own how to say profession field.

A BUDDHIST MONK?

Yes Buddhist monk and Buddhist philosophy.

ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT? DO YOU HAVE ONE THING IF YOU HAD ONE THING THAT COULD BE, ONE SENTENCE THAT COULD GO TO EVERYBODY IN THE WORLD RIGHT NOW, WHAT WOULD IT BE?

Has good heart, be a good human being with good heart. That gives you brighter future. That gives you energy, peace, tranquility. And also that gives you inner strength. So usually I call compassionate love is something like universal religion. Without any other complicated religious system. Simply be a good being a good person.

THANK YOU

Alright?

LET'S KEEP THE CAMERA ROLLING. PETER, YOU WANT TO SHOW HIM YOUR CAMERA?

There's only one button that....

.....

that you have to turn on. Here, if you turn that on and you turn that on, it's all it's all connected so that this, if you just touch see change the focal light and go ......... this will

How long since you use this camera?

About a month.

So the most important thing is you get good you get good picture?

Oh yeah

Ohhh that is good. ........... investigate camera ........... ........sometimes

...........

I HAVE TO TAKE A PICTURE OF YOU AND HIM TOGETHER. SO WE'LL TRUST THIS CAMERA.

Which way do you want to take it, David?

DOESN'T MATTER, THIS IS FINE.

So you better use the flash I think, it wouldn't hurt.

And open this, not quite warm

TOO .....

.....

STILL NOT........ OK.

You want the ........ standing there?

YEAH STANDING I THINK.

Put it on Peter

The light on me?

Yup

......... I'VE HEARD THAT ONE BEFORE.

I don't know if he.......

OK

Smile

DO WE WAIT FOR THE GREEN LIGHT TO GO ON?

Yeah

....... one more

AND HOW DO YOU ADVANCE IT?

Oh .............

It's already developed. It's at home in your photo album now.

NOTHING'S HAPPENING.

Are you getting a green light?

YEAH I GOT A GREEN LIGHT

Because the red light came on outside.

One more

THERE WE GO

Good, very good, very good.

Pleasure to meet you.

......correct way...

DO YOU WANT A PICTURE OF YOU AND HIS HOLINESS.......

[inaudible]

For the children, Your Holiness.

........

........light...

[CUT]

And.......

OK ANYTHING

[Tibetan] ???

ANYTHING .... EXCEPT COMING...... FROM ENGLAND WITH HIS BABY

Now

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